Good examples of differences. But does it mean unconditionally they are fakes? Could it be due to re-design between older and newer batches? This occurs all the time with consumer electronics.
This is where my hands are tied regarding the conversations I’ve had with Sennheiser. From my point of view this is a decent comparison between real and fake. However, again there are details i just can’t go into here, but my advice still stands, buy from an ‘Authorized’ dealer, not a ‘reputable’ dealer.
I just got a pair from ebay. I was looking foreward to getting them but the sound wasnt at all what i expected. I have been to a few comparison sites and mine have some of the traits of fakes but not others. I read the case with the real ones is leather. Mines definintely not leather but the logo stitched to the side looks like the one from the real example not the fake. Also my clip looks like the fake one but my rubber ‘dongle’ bit looks like the real one not the fake. I also read about print quality on the packaging. Mine seems fine. Also that on the real ones the metal cover over the inner ear part is set inside the tube but in the fakes its glued over. Mine seems glued over.
Basically ive seen lots of sites that offer tell tale signs but mine have a combination. Whats up with that?
Im not sure if theyre real and Im expecting too much from the sound or if theyre fake and the sound quality proves it.
My first impression is that Senheiser wouldn’t vary their manufacturing process. So if your headphones don’t tick ‘ALL’ the boxes, they’re fake.
There’s one sure way of telling a fake, and that’s the price. If you see new Sennheiser’s for less than 75% of the retail price, then I’d think again.
The other is the model. Some models of Sennheiser’s are popular with the counterfeiters.
Third is where you bought them. if its ebay (in your case) then they’re probably fake anyway. Not speaking for Sennheiser (I forgot to ask), but in the case of Bose, they don’t allow authorized dealers sell their headphones/products through third party sites.
I’m not allowed to tell you where amazon.co.uk (for example) get their Sennheiser’s from, but amazon themselves are legitimate dealers of Sennheiser headphones.
Go to the forum, and post a new topic, and we’ll talk about this further.
Somone needs to get this figured out because i have a real leather pouch, fake clip, good sounding headphones, and earbuds that have screens that i cannot tell if they are glued on or flush. WTF? All of these guides are useless.
Unfortunately, the guides are the best anyone can do, as nothing stays the same. instead of concentrating on the many versions of fakes, i try and concentrate on the real thing, so you can compare. I don’t expect a 100% success rate, but I’m trying my best!
i have just got a pair of these – they are definitely fakes off ebay but they are the best headphones ive ever owned!! I heard that what happens is that the factory in china manufactures extra stock off the books and sells it themselves rather than for, in this case, sennheiser. anyone know?
As far as I know, the story isn’t quite as simple as that. As far as I know, Sennheiser were producing using a factory in China, but the relationship went sour, and Sennheiser stopped using the factory in question. However the factory continued to produce the headphones using the Sennheiser name (of course), but don’t think that you’re getting the same thing. The materials used were/are cheap and inferior to that of the genuine Sennheiser’s. So please don’t think that just becasue they come from the same factory, you’re getting the same thing but just a little bit cheaper, your getting what you paid for, cheap junk!
I think that if you heard the real thing, you’d realize what your missing out on. I do hear comments that fakes sound better than the real thing. I’ve written a quick heads up on this.
My first pair of Genuine cx-400s, purchased at high end authorized retailer Myer Emco in Washington DC, have experienced reduced volume in the left channel, regardless of the source. I exchanged for an identical pair (thought the first ones may have been cx-300s)… and again, the left channel is suffering after less than 10 hours or so of use. On the laptop, on the ipod, on the phone, from every source.
I’m positive these aren’t “fakes,” but clearly their manufacturers are not meeting defect standards. I’m disappointed with Sennheiser. For as long as I can rememember I’ve had B&O speakers, and Sennheiser headphones. Nothing different, I’m an audio junkie, and I recommend them to everyone that asks. I’ve spent a fortune on those headphones in the past, and was glad to when I saw these earbuds on the shelf… lord knows I’m not sweating into my 800s when I’m running. But I got duped, end of story.
I think they wanted to jump into a niche market that they didn’t have the manufacturing set up for, so they subcontracted to cheap manufacturers that slapped their branding on a mediocre product. Their customers expected the same superb quality and performance, and they were delivered crap. And now, at least one customer they had for life, is never going to buy another product from Sennheiser again, and all those ipod headphone recommendations this holiday season have certainly been mentioning the brand to avoid. Sennheiser has let quality control go out the window and they’ve done their brand a disservice with this entire line.
Twice, the same products have failed under very light usage, with different devices as their primary source. I’m gone. Shure, Denon, Klipsch.
I’m no fan of Sennheiser earphones, but I did have 27(?) pairs at one time. I have to say i’m no fan of Sennheiser earphones, I only buy them for fakeheadphones. But to faulty earphones ….????
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Good examples of differences. But does it mean unconditionally they are fakes? Could it be due to re-design between older and newer batches? This occurs all the time with consumer electronics.
This is where my hands are tied regarding the conversations I’ve had with Sennheiser. From my point of view this is a decent comparison between real and fake. However, again there are details i just can’t go into here, but my advice still stands, buy from an ‘Authorized’ dealer, not a ‘reputable’ dealer.
I just got a pair from ebay. I was looking foreward to getting them but the sound wasnt at all what i expected. I have been to a few comparison sites and mine have some of the traits of fakes but not others. I read the case with the real ones is leather. Mines definintely not leather but the logo stitched to the side looks like the one from the real example not the fake. Also my clip looks like the fake one but my rubber ‘dongle’ bit looks like the real one not the fake. I also read about print quality on the packaging. Mine seems fine. Also that on the real ones the metal cover over the inner ear part is set inside the tube but in the fakes its glued over. Mine seems glued over.
Basically ive seen lots of sites that offer tell tale signs but mine have a combination. Whats up with that?
Im not sure if theyre real and Im expecting too much from the sound or if theyre fake and the sound quality proves it.
My first impression is that Senheiser wouldn’t vary their manufacturing process. So if your headphones don’t tick ‘ALL’ the boxes, they’re fake.
There’s one sure way of telling a fake, and that’s the price. If you see new Sennheiser’s for less than 75% of the retail price, then I’d think again.
The other is the model. Some models of Sennheiser’s are popular with the counterfeiters.
Third is where you bought them. if its ebay (in your case) then they’re probably fake anyway. Not speaking for Sennheiser (I forgot to ask), but in the case of Bose, they don’t allow authorized dealers sell their headphones/products through third party sites.
I’m not allowed to tell you where amazon.co.uk (for example) get their Sennheiser’s from, but amazon themselves are legitimate dealers of Sennheiser headphones.
Go to the forum, and post a new topic, and we’ll talk about this further.
I posted another short guide on how to identify fake CX 400 with high resolution images of differences I noticed.
Here:
http://reviews.ebay.com/Identifying-fake-Sennheiser-CX-400-earphones-hi-res_W0QQugidZ10000000009657302
Somone needs to get this figured out because i have a real leather pouch, fake clip, good sounding headphones, and earbuds that have screens that i cannot tell if they are glued on or flush. WTF? All of these guides are useless.
Hi Grant, where did you buy your CX400′s?
Unfortunately, the guides are the best anyone can do, as nothing stays the same. instead of concentrating on the many versions of fakes, i try and concentrate on the real thing, so you can compare. I don’t expect a 100% success rate, but I’m trying my best!
BTW sorry for your confusion.
i have just got a pair of these – they are definitely fakes off ebay but they are the best headphones ive ever owned!! I heard that what happens is that the factory in china manufactures extra stock off the books and sells it themselves rather than for, in this case, sennheiser. anyone know?
As far as I know, the story isn’t quite as simple as that. As far as I know, Sennheiser were producing using a factory in China, but the relationship went sour, and Sennheiser stopped using the factory in question. However the factory continued to produce the headphones using the Sennheiser name (of course), but don’t think that you’re getting the same thing. The materials used were/are cheap and inferior to that of the genuine Sennheiser’s. So please don’t think that just becasue they come from the same factory, you’re getting the same thing but just a little bit cheaper, your getting what you paid for, cheap junk!
I think that if you heard the real thing, you’d realize what your missing out on. I do hear comments that fakes sound better than the real thing. I’ve written a quick heads up on this.
http://www.fakeheadphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=240.0
My first pair of Genuine cx-400s, purchased at high end authorized retailer Myer Emco in Washington DC, have experienced reduced volume in the left channel, regardless of the source. I exchanged for an identical pair (thought the first ones may have been cx-300s)… and again, the left channel is suffering after less than 10 hours or so of use. On the laptop, on the ipod, on the phone, from every source.
I’m positive these aren’t “fakes,” but clearly their manufacturers are not meeting defect standards. I’m disappointed with Sennheiser. For as long as I can rememember I’ve had B&O speakers, and Sennheiser headphones. Nothing different, I’m an audio junkie, and I recommend them to everyone that asks. I’ve spent a fortune on those headphones in the past, and was glad to when I saw these earbuds on the shelf… lord knows I’m not sweating into my 800s when I’m running. But I got duped, end of story.
I think they wanted to jump into a niche market that they didn’t have the manufacturing set up for, so they subcontracted to cheap manufacturers that slapped their branding on a mediocre product. Their customers expected the same superb quality and performance, and they were delivered crap. And now, at least one customer they had for life, is never going to buy another product from Sennheiser again, and all those ipod headphone recommendations this holiday season have certainly been mentioning the brand to avoid. Sennheiser has let quality control go out the window and they’ve done their brand a disservice with this entire line.
Twice, the same products have failed under very light usage, with different devices as their primary source. I’m gone. Shure, Denon, Klipsch.
I’m no fan of Sennheiser earphones, but I did have 27(?) pairs at one time. I have to say i’m no fan of Sennheiser earphones, I only buy them for fakeheadphones. But to faulty earphones ….????